1807 - Y
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Name |
John Wilder Wilson |
Born |
22 Feb 1807 |
Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
[2, 5, 6] |
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Gender |
Male |
Census |
1830 |
Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
[7] |
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Census |
1840 |
Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
[8, 9] |
|
Census |
1850 |
Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
[10, 11] |
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Census |
1870 |
Riverton, Mason, Michigan, United States
[12] |
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Occupation |
1870 [12] |
Farmer
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Occupation |
12 Jan 1877 |
Riverton, Mason, Michigan, United States
[13] |
U.S. Postmaster
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Census |
1880 |
Riverton, Mason, Michigan, United States
[6] |
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Reference Number |
80
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_AMTID |
190111183140:1030:113173531
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_COLOR |
3
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Died |
Y
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Notes |
- John Wilder Wilson was believed to have married twice. Unkown first wi
fe deceased by 1840-41. Second wife named Mary. John W. Wilson is lis
ted in 1850 census for Louisville, St. Lawrence Co., NY., aged 43, and M
ary age 32. [DAJ]
John Wilder Wilson, 1807- & Mary Taylor, 1818-
For many years there was very little that could be definitively sa
id about this particular generation in the Wilson ancestral line. Amo
g the handful of available documentary items with information on John W
ilder was a 1947 D.A.R. (Daughters of the American Revolution) applicat
ion. Mildred Wilson Muirhead filed for membership in the D.A.R. based u
pon her descent from John Willson, Jr. (father of John W. Willson). As p
art of the documentation she submitted the names and dates of birth for a
ll of John Willson's children were listed. According to her source (a f
amily Bible) John Wilder Wilson was born 22 February 1807 in Louisville
, St. Lawrence county, New York.
Census records offered a few additional scraps of information. A J
ohn Wilson appeared as the head of a Louisville household in the 1830 c
ensus for a home that included a male aged 60-70 and a female 50-60 as w
ell as other members which likely include his wife and children. His o
lder brothers also appeared in this census heading households of their o
wn at Massena Island (Hiram Willson) and in Louisville (Peter Willson). J
ohn Wilder's household had obviously changed with the passage of time b
ut can be found again in Louisville in the 1840 census. It would appea
, however, that John Wilder's wife had died as there is no female of t
he appropriate age in the home at this time. I further believe this to b
e the case when one considers as well that a wife, Mary Taylor, is iden
tified in the 1850 census but she is only 32. Not nearly old enough to h
ave been the mother of John Wilder's son, Charles, born in 1831 when th
is woman would have been a mere thirteen! Possible of course, but not l
ikely.
The 1850 federal census finally offered more tangible details on t
his family. Still residing in Louisville at age 43, John W. and his wi
fe Mary had five children ranging in ages from nine years to four month
s: Norman, John, James, Alice and Albert respectively. All but the you
gest attended school within the year though eight year old John was cl
assified as an "Idiot" by the census. Also in the household was his 78 y
ear old mother from Massachusetts, Mercy, as well as 18 year old Dana W
ilson and 14 year old Emma Prouty whose relationship to the family are n
ot precisely known. For many years this was the extent of our informati
on on John Wilder and family.
Then in 1997-98 came assistance from an entirely unforeseen sour
ce - an internet contact and a cache of 57 letters written to Moses Tay
lor (brother of John Wilder's wife) between 1842-67.
Computers and internet access with accompanying email have provided an e
ormous boost to genealogical research if for no other reason than as a m
eans of linking genealogists to others researching common ancestral lin
es across the country. Precisely this kind of internet linkage brought a
exchange of information with Arlene McAvoy in 1997 that unraveled the W
ilson line back to the 17th century and uncovered this cache of letters
. Arlene stumbled upon these letters in a Taylor file at the L.D.S. ce
ter in Potsdam, New York. Two letters written by John W. Wilson to Mo
ses Taylor (his brother-in-law in Michigan) are reprinted in full.
Massena, NY
Sept. the 20th, 1857
Respected Brother and Sister, After a long silence I now (take) my pen i
hand to write a few lines to let you know that we are all well as usu
al at present. It is a long time since we have heard anything from you. I e
quire of your folks often about you but I hear nothing. I was up to y
our Father's last Sunday. They were all well there. They told me tha
t Elias had been down (and) preached for them. He did not call on us so I c
an't tell you much about them. Elen and wife made us a visit a month ag
o and David and wife and little girl made us a good visit about three w
eeks ago. They were all well then and doing very well. Emaline was th
e last I heard from her. We are on a farm on shares or rather (at any) r
ate we milk twelve cows on the place. The farm is hard and stoney. We d
o not raise much grain. We have a good deal of hay to cut to keep what s
tock we have and the meadows are rough, a good deal run out. We have o
f undivided stock 2 cows, 2 two years olds, 6 yearlings and 4 calves 30 s
heep. I have a good mare 6 years old, 1 colt two years old and one suc
king colt of my own and four hogs that are company stock and we have ou
two old cows that we took off from the island , but I shall have to s
ell some stock this fall to pay debts as we do not raise grain enough f
or our own use. We make considerable butter, but not enough to pay all e
xpenses. But I am in hopes that in a year or two more that we shall ge
t along better as our boys get up a little larger. They are very good b
oys to work and they help a good deal now. Our children (are) healthy a
d smart but poor John, he has fits and is very bad a good share of the t
ime and is very troublesome to take care of. He fails a good deal for a y
ear past. It's not likely he will live long.
I must now tell you about our little fellow. He is about 7 mont
hs old now, smart and pretty healthy generally. We call him Frederick E
len. We have to be continued at home. We have so much to do, cows to m
ilk and butter to attend to and the sick boy and baby and all. We can'
t be gone overnight. We have not kept any hired help this summer. We a
ll have to work pretty hard, but our children are growing and as long a
s we are all well I am none concerned but what we shall get along. And n
ow I want you should write and tell me how you are getting along and ho
w fast you are getting rich and what the chances are in your country fo
taking farms and what a man can do there with but little to do with f
or if the chances are pretty good I might be tempted to go there someda
y and try my luck in your country. I have not much news to write. It
's quite still times at present here. As to politics in this town we a
e most all republicans. As to religion I am just about as I used to be w
hen you was here. I have not heard anything from our folks in Burlingt
on this summer. If you see any of them tell them that we are all well a
d tell them to write to me and you just write a little about them for f
ear they won't write right away. I suppose they are like me, they don'
t get about writing very often. And give my compliments to Hosea and f
amily and Harriet if she is there . I always remember the good visit w
e had when you and sister Taylor was there on the island with us. We d
o not hear from Samuel and Charlotte very often. If you do please men
tion it. Now please to write soon. Direct Massena village and I shall g
et it. So now bid you a good evening. I am, sir, yours respectfully
John W. Willson Mary Willson
Riverton, Mich
May 8, 1867
Brother Moses and Sister Dyantha,
I now sit down to write a few lines to you to let you know that w
e had not forgotten you. We are well as usual for us. We are growing o
ld pretty fast and we feel the effects of old age pretty sensibly. Mar
y's health has been very poor for a year past and mine has not been muc
h better. We have been just able to keep about and do a little but we c
an't do much.
We expected to hear from you by Elias when he came back from the e
ast but we did not and we were some disappointed not to. Now there app
ears to be some thing wrong with regard to matters between you and Elia
s for I can hardly credit some of his statements. Now has he any reas
on to make such statements or is it all an imaginary exaggeration? We h
ave heard from him now we just want an explanation from you. For my pa
t it don't trouble me much but it troubles Mary a good deal for she ca
ot believe that Moses has got to be such a man nor I can't nor don't. I l
et him say what he is a mind to and let it pass at that. I think that h
e is partially deranged by times for he has had trouble enough to make a h
alf a dozen men crazy if all is true that he tells. Now I want this to b
e confidential betwixt your family and mine. I don't want him to know t
hat I correspond with you at tall. I don't want to offend him and let h
im forget his trouble if he can so we hear what he has to say without a
y contradiction and let him tell his storys as he has a mind to.
We have commenced farming a little, plowing and sowing wheat but t
he weather is cold and dry yet. My letter did not get sent to the post o
ffice and has laid over so I will try again. It is now the 5th of May a
d we have a fine rain yesterday and last night but the weather is quit
e cool yet but clear and pleasant.
Elias was here to see us yesterday. He comes when he is in the n
eighborhood and has time. He works around at little jobs of carpenter w
ork when can get chances. He talks of buying a piece of land some wher
e in our neighborhood but whether he will or not I don't know. He is s
o unsteady that we can't tell what he will do. Moses and his wife have g
ot a young daughter born on March the 11th. They are all well. Marger
y and her man are getting along very well and Marrion lives with them. M
y boys are all at home now and will put in our crops and then they will g
o to work out until harvest. Alice is married and lives in about half a m
ile of us. So now I believe I have got about done for this time. We s
end you our respects, not forgetting Gustus and wife and Lula . So I r
emain yours as ever.
J. W. Wilson
While these two letters are the only ones written by John Wilder W
ilson, references to his family are contained in the vast majority of t
he others. These numerous references and aside comments about the fami
ly offer tentative answers to questions such as that mentioned earlier c
oncerning Dana Wilson's relationship to family. Her relationship to the f
amily was something of a puzzle for quite some time. With the common s
urname it seemed probable that Dana was a blood relative - perhaps a ni
ece or even a daughter from John Wilder's first marriage. While it is s
till possible that Dana was a daughter, from the letters it now seems m
ore likely she was his niece - the daughter of John's brother Hiram Wil
lson who died circa 1843. Regardless, it is not surprising to find you
g women living in the home who were not immediate family or even relat
ion. This "domestic" status served as a type of rite of passage for yo
ung adolescents in the 18th and 19th centuries. Though more usually ex
perienced by young women, even young men used this social structure as a t
ansitional phase before establishing their own household. John Wilder
's eldest son Charles exemplifies this.
At this time nothing else is known regarding John W. Wilson. Part o
f the reason for this is simply due to the fact that the records for Lo
uisville are simply not very good. As late as the 1880 census Louisvil
le still warranted a post office. Not today. Though nestled along the s
hores of the mighty St. Lawrence River as one of the early towns of tha
t region, Louisville today is little more than an unincorporated villag
e of several buildings. Without the development of an industry to keep j
obs within the community or a tradition as a major trading port along t
he river, Louisville has been in a steady population decline for over a c
entury. After inquiring in regards to records dating back to the first t
hird of the 19th century for Louisville, I was informed that no such re
cords exist, having either been lost or destroyed over the years as the c
ommunity dwindled. As of this writing, the date and place of John W. W
ilson's death is unknown. However, there may yet be hope. There are e
ight John Wilsons listed in St. Lawrence County for the 1860 census. P
erhaps one of these will offer more information. Another avenue of appr
oach currently bearing greater fruit is research in Burlington, Calhoun c
ounty, Michigan. Like many other New Englanders and their children, Jo
hn Wilder's brother Luther relocated there by 1850 as did others of his s
iblings.
Luther's story is more complete than most of the other children of J
ohn Willson as his many years in Calhoun county, Michigan and status as a
early settler of the region led to the inclusion of his biographical s
ketch in the History of Calhoun County Michigan published in 1877. The f
ollowing excerpt is offered.
"Luther Wilson, now living on section 19, on a part of the ol
d Randall
farm is one of the old residents of the county although he h
as resided in
Tekonsha but for a few years. He came from St. Lawrence cou
ty, New
York in October 1834, while yet a single man. He located ei
ghty acres on
the SW quarter of section 23 in Burlington township, and in t
he fall of 1835
built a log house. He was married in April 1838 to Margaret W
arner, who
lived in the same township.... He raised a family of four ch
ildren, one son
and three daughters. The son, John W. Wilson is now living i
Iowa, one
daughter Mercy is dead and another Josephine is the wife of J
.C. Blacke of
Tekonsha. Mr. Wilson is now in his seventy-third year. Whe
he came
west he came as far as Cleveland by boat and from thence to h
is new home
walked nearly the entire distance. After crossing the line i
to Michigan he
followed an Indian trail."
Additionally, a little information about Luther's wife is gleaned from t
his same text as it mentions that "Mark Woodruff came from Hosmer, Cort
land county, New York in 1837 and was accompanied by his family and his w
ife's sister, who is now the wife of Luther Wilson."
Luther and John Wilder's sister, Harriet, arrived in Michigan dur
ing this same general time period. She had wed William Pierce on 17 Ma
y 1818 in New York. Interestingly enough, Harriet bestowed upon many o
f her children the familiar names of her own brothers and sisters: John
, Lima, Luther, Lutheria, Fannie, Harriet. She even went so far as to c
ontinue the fashion for Romanesque names such as those given to her bro
ther Cassius and Demarius when she named one child, Octavius.
Sources
1850 federal census, New York, St. Lawrence Co., Louisville, p.231
(This is the only census which definitively lists John W. Wilson)
1850 federal census, Michigan, Calhoun Co., Burlington
John W. Wilson is listed as a son of John Willson in the latter's D.A.R
. file
Article by DAJ:
"John Wilder Wilson (1807-?)
There is very little that can be definitively said about this part
icular generation in our Wilson ancestral line. In 1947, Mildred Wills
on Murihead filed fro membershipin the D.A.R. (Daughters of the America
Revolution) based upon her ancestry with John Willson, Jr. As part o
f the documentation she provided, the names and dates of birth for all o
f John Willson's children were listed. According to her documentation, J
ohn Wilder Willson was born on 22 February 1807 in Louisville, St. Lawr
ence County, New York. Unfortunately for us, none of the federal censu
ses prior to that of 1850 list any specific names besides that of the h
ead of household.
I believe that John Wilder appears as the head of household in1830 i
Louisville for ah ome that includes a male aged 60-70 and a female 50
-60 as well as other members which likely include his wife and children
. Regardless, John Wilder's older brothers also appear at this point i
the census heading households of their own at Massena Island (Hiram W
illson) and in Louisville (Peter WIllson). John Wilder's household had o
bviously changed with the passage of time but can be found again in Lou
isville in the 1840 census. It would appear, however, that John Wilder
's wife had died as there is no female of the appropriate age in the ho
me at this time. I fruther believe this to be the case when one consid
ers as well that a wife, Mary, is identified in the 1850 census but she i
s only 32. Not nearly old enough to have been the mother of John Wilde
's son, Charles, born in 1831 when this woman would have been a mere t
hirteen! Possible, of course, but not likely.
It is the 1850 federal census which finally offers more tangible d
etails on this family. Still residing in Louisville at age 43, John W. a
d his wife Mary had five children ranging in ages from nine years to f
our months. Narsnan (spelling?), John, James, Alice and Albert respect
ively. All but the youngest attended school wihtin the year though int
erestingly enough, eight year old John was classified as an "Idiot" by t
he census. Also in John Wilder's household was his 78 year old mother f
om Massachusetts, Mercy, as well as an 18 year old Dana Wilson and 14 y
ear old Emma Prouty. Their relationship to the family is unknown. Joh
W. Wilson is listed as a farmer born in New York state.
At this time nothing else is known regarding John W. Wilson. Part o
f the reason fort his is simply due to the fact that the records for Lo
uisville are simply not very good. As late as the 1880 census Louisvil
le still warranted a post office. Not today. Though nestled along the s
hores of the mighty St. Lawrence River as one of the early town of that r
egion, Louisville today is little more than an unincorporated village o
f several buildings. Without the development of an industry to keep jo
bs within the community or a tradition as a major trading port along th
e river, Louisville has been in a steady population decline for over a c
entury. After inquiring in regards to records dating back to the first t
hird of the 19th century for Louisville, I was informed that no such re
cords exist, having either been lost or destroyed over the years as the c
ommunity dwindled. As of this writing, the date and place of John W. W
ilson's death is unknown. However, there may be hope yet. There are e
ight John Wilsons listed in St. Lawrence county for the 1860 census. P
erhaps one of these will offer more information. Another avenue of appr
oach to the problem might be research in Burlington, Calhoun County, Mi
chigan. John Wilder's brother Luther relocated there by 1850 and perha
ps others of his siblings ultimately did too."
June 18, 1870 Riverton, Mason, Michigan, Page 8
65 65 Wilson, John W 63 M W Farmer 2000 625 New York x [male citizen 21
+]
--Mary E 52 F W Keeping House New York
--James 25 M W Work on Farm New York x [male citizen 21+]
--Albert 21 M W Work on Farm New York x [male citizen 21+]
--Frederick 13 M W Work on Farm New York x [school]
October 1st, 1850 Louisville, St. Lawrence, New York
1 1 Samuel Wilson 28 M Farmer N.Y.
61 61 Charlott " 28 F "
Orson L. " 3 M "
Helen L. " 2 F "
William Prouty 17 M " x [attended school]
2 2 John W Wilson 43 " " "
62 62 Mary " 32 F "
Narsnan " 9 M " x [attended school]
John " 8 " " x [attended school] Idiot
James " 6 " " x [attended school]
Alice " 4 F " x [attended school]
Albert " 4/12 M "
Mercy [Mary?] " 78 F Mafs
Dana " 18 M N.Y.
Emma Prouty 14 F Michigan
June 12 and 14 1880 Riverton Mason Michigan Page 13 Sup 2 Enum 169
119 126 [faint and difficult to read] Wilson John W W M 73 x [married] F
armer New York Mass Mass
Mary T [?] W F 62 Wife x Keeping House New York Mass Mass
Albert A W M 30 Son x [single] Farm Laborer New York NY NY
Frederick E W M 23 Son x Farm Laborer New York NY NY
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Person ID |
I1748 |
Megan's Big Tree |
Last Modified |
18 Oct 2018 |
Father |
Jr. John Willson, b. 16 Apr 1764, Petersham, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States
, d. 16 Oct 1847, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
(Age 83 years) |
Mother |
Mary Wheeler, b. Dec 1772, Williamstown, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
, d. Y
|
Married |
1789 |
Family ID |
F782 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 1 |
, b. New York, United States
, d. Bef 1840 |
Children |
| 1. Charles Wilson, b. Dec 1830, New York, United States
, d. 18 Jul 1910, Sisseton, Roberts, South Dakota, United States
(Age ~ 79 years) |
| 2. Dana Wilson, b. Abt 1832, New York, United States
, d. Y
|
|
Last Modified |
4 Jul 2019 |
Family ID |
F765 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 2 |
Mary Eunice Taylor, b. 1 Jan 1818, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. 1 Jun 1882 (Age 64 years) |
Married |
20 Apr 1839 |
Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
[3, 14] |
Children |
| 1. Norman Luther Wilson, b. Abt 1841, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. Y
|
| 2. John Taylor Wilson, b. 23 Mar 1842, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. 10 Mar 1915, Traverse City, Grand Traverse, Michigan, United States
(Age 72 years) |
| 3. James Moses Wilson, b. Abt 1842, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. 1919 (Age ~ 77 years) |
| 4. Alice Wilson, b. Abt 1846, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. Y
|
| 5. Albert A. Wilson, b. 18 Jan 1850, Louisville, Saint Lawrence, New York, United States
, d. 22 Nov 1941, Elkhart, Elkhart, Indiana, United States
(Age 91 years) |
| 6. Frederick Elon Wilson, b. 3 Mar 1857, New York, United States
, d. 2 Apr 1918, Elkhart, Indiana, United States
(Age 61 years) |
|
Last Modified |
4 Jul 2019 |
Family ID |
F766 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Sources |
- [S214] Family Group Sheets Compiled by David Alan Johnson
.
- [S116] DAR Application of Mildred Willson Muirhead
.
- [S132] Descendants of Ebernezer Taylor
.
- [S2260] Indiana, Death Certificates, 1899-2011
.
- [S748] The Wilsons
.
- [S14] 1880 Census
.
- [S366] More Wilsons
.
Included male aged 60-70 and female 50-60 as well as others, likely his w
ife and children.
- [S366] More Wilsons
.
- [S7] 1840 Census
.
Listed near the Taylors.
- [S748] The Wilsons
.
At this time, caring for his mother in his home.
- [S393] Notes by David Johnson citing census records
.
- [S12] 1870 Census
.
- [S3106] U.S., Appointments of U. S. Postmasters, 1832-1971
, accessed; 17 October 2018; John W. Willson
.
- [S7] 1840 Census
.
Supported by the fact that in 1840, John Wilson is listed next to Elam T
aylor (Sr. and Jr.) with wife and 1 child. Where are his other childre
from his first marriage?
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